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smiley101

India
168 Posts

Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  10:14:41  Show Profile  Visit smiley101's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi . I was gifted 4 guppies last night. (They're fishes)
They're very beautiful . But, I don't think they're too happy living in a bowl in my house. I want to know if i can let them into any sea/ocean or other water body . Also, I am either supposed to feed them Hitachi bowl(I don't know what that is!) or a 'cube'-which is dried worms! And where can I get them food from?? Because most petshops aren't too animal-friendly right..?
Please help! Fast. (My guppies are hungry!)

niran_amarnath

India
1357 Posts

Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  17:24:06  Show Profile  Visit niran_amarnath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hummm, this might help you:
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=30

& let your friend/relative know that Why Animals Do Not Make Good Gifts!
http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=35


"If animals formed their own religion, surely human beings would be their Satan"
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sonal.daftaur

India
93 Posts

Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  20:04:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the second link was too good...and tooo right...

live....and LET live....!!!!!!!
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smiley101

India
168 Posts

Posted - 13 Nov 2008 :  21:06:53  Show Profile  Visit smiley101's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think I had already seen the first link... But thanks anyway, Niranjan. I got their food and everything..but I still don't know whether I can put them in some water body or something... Turns out they're tropical fish, and so, they're found in Phillipines and Indonesia and places like that...
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vibhor

India
852 Posts

Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  15:31:38  Show Profile  Visit vibhor's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Please don't put them in any water body because they will die within hours, or rather will get ripped and eaten. If your kinda like feeling guilty, then beg your parents for an aquarium, thats just what i have done. I hav for about 20 fishes in a huge aquarium, in my house. When and if i go to a fish shop and see some fishes not kept in proper conditions, or i surely think they are not happy in that filthy little confined space, then i purchase them and bring them home. Atleast here(house) they have clean water all the required stuff, food etc. whereas there in the shop they are either sold off or wait to die a slow death.

So, i think you need an aquarium at the earliest,with a water pump and a automatic temperature regulator, keepin in mind winter is commin.

Also,
tropical fish will never survive in waters from which they dont belong, people might think they are doing great deeds by setting fish free in rivers etc. but they are wrong as the fishes are sure to die as they can't accomodate and adjust themselves tht easily. Also the water type is different, and these days all major water bodies are heavily polluted, thanks to us(DORKISH HUMANS).

Vibhor Sharma Kaushal
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smiley101

India
168 Posts

Posted - 14 Nov 2008 :  21:51:10  Show Profile  Visit smiley101's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Vibhor! I was thinking of getting a bigger tank..so I will quite soon, I think. They're really pretty..!
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vibhor

India
852 Posts

Posted - 17 Nov 2008 :  16:22:55  Show Profile  Visit vibhor's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Wow thats gr8 news !
and yah they really are cutees specially when they open their mouth.......

Vibhor Sharma Kaushal
ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST
ENVIRONMENTALIST
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niran_amarnath

India
1357 Posts

Posted - 25 Apr 2009 :  22:41:50  Show Profile  Visit niran_amarnath's Homepage  Reply with Quote
When you buy animals, you support their cruel business . . . Tell them to improve the conditions; clean up d tanks, etc...

"If animals formed their own religion, surely human beings would be their Satan"
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vibhor

India
852 Posts

Posted - 26 Apr 2009 :  13:34:00  Show Profile  Visit vibhor's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yup,
I too try and tell them, and mostly their reply is "Kharidna hai to lo, nahi toh please jao, hamei aur bhi bahut kaam hai."And i'm like "aur bhi kaam hai, janver hi toh baech rahe ho!!"

But sometimes when i feel cruelty to fishes is beyond limits and there is no hope for improvement, I buy them (if their within my budget). Same for other small animals !

It is horrible to firstly see animal cruelty and its even worse if you don't do anything about it and let the animals suffer in those pet shops. I feel if they are suffering, buy them if you can, but preventive check- always tell the shopkeepers to keep them in better conditions.

I don't know about others, but i can't let see animals suffer, that's why I went in for 2 rabbits. Cuz, on one hand i am doing all this Animal Activist/Activism thingy and on the other hand I am supposed to fold a "blind eye" towards animal suffering in pet shops, as far as im comcerned my conscience does'nt agree with it !

And also the term "PET SHOP" does not always mean shops with glass doors, windows, fans, tiles, cages, telephone etc.
Most of the shops are set up by illetrate locals. These shops are temporary settlements near roads or near markets,under flyovers or even in "Sunday Markets". The animals and birds are kept under the direct sun for hours at a stretch, due to which small birds(love birds)sometimes faint. I can't see such things and just pass by......thinking one day this will change and stop, or heyy why does'nt anybody do something about this !

Vibhor Sharma Kaushal
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Aphrodite

India
127 Posts

Posted - 27 Apr 2009 :  22:06:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
problem is vibhor, when you buy them they will just get replaced by more fish. it is just like eating at KFC. you provide them with demand they increase their supply.

i understand you cant bear to see suffering but in the larger scheme of things you are supporting the industry.

if you want to the fish don't pay the shopkeepers. steal them if you have to.
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vibhor

India
852 Posts

Posted - 28 Apr 2009 :  00:57:09  Show Profile  Visit vibhor's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
steal them if you have to.


Yah right ! Tell me about it.........
Though i have always wished for such an occasion to happen. Its only limited in my dreams !

Why the heck don we have something like the ALF.etc.?

Vibhor Sharma Kaushal
ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST
ENVIRONMENTALIST
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ash_hp24

India
548 Posts

Posted - 10 Jul 2009 :  15:30:29  Show Profile  Visit ash_hp24's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i agree which is always my case!! how can we stand cruelty to animals in pet stores and stuff?!!?? the easiest way out is to buy them!!

Rashmi Tenneti
People Who Are Violent to Animals ... Rarely Stop There
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vibhor

India
852 Posts

Posted - 10 Jul 2009 :  17:42:16  Show Profile  Visit vibhor's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Totally Rashmi,
When ever i see any animal or fish or bird and can't stand the cruelty being endured to it, i simple beg my parents and buy them. I don't give a shit to people who say your buying and supporting their trade, cuz i know thts true but then whts our duty as animal lovers and activists- just to see them and pass by! .....wont tht be being heartless......

I had recently (few months back) seen this shop person with love birds, but could'nt help but stop and see them from close, and when i did tht,i saw they were soo miserable and sad...so i bought them (4 of them)...but then tht thought of caging them hounded me...but again i said to myself how can i just leave them here,cuz if they die they will just be thrown off in the dustinbin....whereas in my house atleast they will hav a chance of living.....wid clean food and water and 24x7 care.....
also setting them open was and never will be an option for them cuz they are australian love birds which will die in the harsh delhi climate(courtsey global warming)...........so thts how it is......and as for now they have bonded with me and i love them !

Hope ur turtle tale is somewht same.....

Vibhor Sharma Kaushal
ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST
ENVIRONMENTALIST
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ash_hp24

India
548 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2009 :  04:27:43  Show Profile  Visit ash_hp24's Homepage  Reply with Quote
vibor!! youre soo correct!! the same happened to me! but i m doin something else! im tryn to recreate their natural environments at home the best i can .....muddy pools...airy cages etc..i will show you the pictures!! this is workin good the birds and other animals in my house eat a healthy and varied diet they live in clean and dry containers !! where are we going wrong!! im totly guilt free!!

Rashmi Tenneti
People Who Are Violent to Animals ... Rarely Stop There
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vibhor

India
852 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2009 :  19:14:23  Show Profile  Visit vibhor's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Aww so even u hav birdies.........which ones???

Vibhor Sharma Kaushal
ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST
ENVIRONMENTALIST
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ash_hp24

India
548 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2009 :  23:43:20  Show Profile  Visit ash_hp24's Homepage  Reply with Quote
zebra finches and parakeets

Rashmi Tenneti
People Who Are Violent to Animals ... Rarely Stop There
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